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Old Mar 4th, 2002, 10:03 AM   #1
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When I change a cell and press enter, should Excel (97) be recalculating the entire spreadsheet or just that cell + any it impacts? I've noticed on several different files, when I make a change, the status bar shows recalc in progress and counts off % completed. This takes 3-4 seconds and happens even if the cell has no precedents or dependents. I know, get a faster machine. And I don't want to have to toggle automatic recalc. I didn't notice this happening until a week ago. Thoughts or suggestions?
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Old Mar 6th, 2002, 12:33 PM   #2
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Just wanted to shake this up one time and see if any responses.
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Old Mar 6th, 2002, 12:47 PM   #3
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According to the help file:
"Whenever possible,Excel updates only those cells dependent on other cells that contain values that have changed...The calculation process may take more time if the workbook contains a large number of formulas, if the worksheets contain data tables, or if the worksheets contain functions that automatically recalculate every time the workbook is recalculated.

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Old Mar 6th, 2002, 02:02 PM   #4
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Thanks Steve, but what I really wanted to know is what formulas or functions would recalc even if the cells that feed them or vice-versa were not involved. The help file is ambiguous (at least to me) in that respect. My file does contain a large number of formulas including some array formulas. Do they automatically recalculate anytime any cell is changed, even if the changed cell has nothing to do with them? Assume A1 is blank and is not referred to in any formula in the entire workbook. If I enter 1 in A1, the entire workbook appears to recalculate, taking several seconds. I'm looking for a workaround to this situation.

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Old Mar 11th, 2002, 08:47 AM   #5
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One more time, hoping for additional response.
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Old Mar 11th, 2002, 09:16 AM   #6
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Thanks Steve, but what I really wanted to know is what formulas or functions would recalc even if the cells that feed them or vice-versa were not involved. The help file is ambiguous (at least to me) in that respect. My file does contain a large number of formulas including some array formulas. Do they automatically recalculate anytime any cell is changed, even if the changed cell has nothing to do with them? Assume A1 is blank and is not referred to in any formula in the entire workbook. If I enter 1 in A1, the entire workbook appears to recalculate, taking several seconds. I'm looking for a workaround to this situation.

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Old Mar 11th, 2002, 09:37 AM   #7
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Hi Pilot

Too many volatile functions eg, Now(), TODAY() to name only two of many, can have a re-calculation effect. Array formulas are also notorious for this. If you have a lot of Volatile functions condsider placing them into one group of cells and just reference the needed cell. This prevents using functions like TOday() potentionally hundreds of times. If you have a few array formulae consider using "Database functions" and/or Pivot Tables in their place.

You might also want to check the "Maximum iterations" you have under Tools>Options>Calculation it is normally 100


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Thanks guys. This was what I needed to hear. I do have lots of INDIRECT functions.
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