# Convert the order the first and last name is written via formula

#### polska2180

##### Active Member
Hi assuming I have

"Driver Name: Donald Williams Jr" in Cell A1 in B1 I am looking formula that will show "Williams Jr, Donald"

...not sure if that is possible so the other option is in B1 have just "Donald Williams Jr" then in C1 "Williams Jr, Donald"

thanks for the help.

#### jasonb75

##### Well-known Member
How about
=MID(B1,FIND(" ",B1)+1,LEN(B1))&", "&LEFT(B1,FIND(" ",B1)-1)

edit:- think I might have misread it, I didn't notice that the text, "Driver Name" was in the same cell.

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#### kweaver

##### Well-known Member
Along the same lines:

<b>Excel 2010</b><table cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" style=";background-color: rgb(255,255,255);border: 1px solid;border-collapse: collapse; border-color: rgb(187,187,187)"><colgroup><col width="25px" style="background-color: rgb(218,231,245)" /><col /><col /><col /></colgroup><thead><tr style=" background-color: rgb(218,231,245);text-align: center;color: rgb(22,17,32)"><th></th><th>A</th><th>B</th><th>C</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr ><td style="color: rgb(22,17,32);text-align: center;">1</td><td style="border-top: 1px solid black;border-right: 1px solid black;border-bottom: 1px solid black;border-left: 1px solid black;;">Driver Name: Donald Williams Jr</td><td style="border-top: 1px solid black;border-right: 1px solid black;border-bottom: 1px solid black;border-left: 1px solid black;;">Donald Williams Jr</td><td style="border-top: 1px solid black;border-right: 1px solid black;border-bottom: 1px solid black;border-left: 1px solid black;;">Williams Jr, Donald</td></tr></tbody></table><p style="width:4.8em;font-weight:bold;margin:0;padding:0.2em 0.6em 0.2em 0.5em;border: 1px solid rgb(187,187,187);border-top:none;text-align: center;background-color: rgb(218,231,245);color: rgb(22,17,32)">Sheet1</p><br /><br /><table width="85%" cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" style=";border: 2px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;padding: 0.4em;background-color: rgb(255,255,255)" ><tr><td style="padding:6px" ><b>Worksheet Formulas</b><table cellpadding="2.5px" width="100%" rules="all" style="border: 1px solid;text-align:center;background-color: rgb(255,255,255);border-collapse: collapse; border-color: rgb(187,187,187)"><thead><tr style=" background-color: rgb(218,231,245);color: rgb(22,17,32)"><th width="10px">Cell</th><th style="text-align:left;padding-left:5px;">Formula</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr><th width="10px" style=" background-color: rgb(218,231,245);color: rgb(22,17,32)">B1</th><td style="text-align:left">=MID(<font color="Blue">A1,FIND(<font color="Red">": ",A1</font>)+2,50</font>)</td></tr><tr><th width="10px" style=" background-color: rgb(218,231,245);color: rgb(22,17,32)">C1</th><td style="text-align:left">=MID(<font color="Blue">B1,FIND(<font color="Red">" ",B1</font>)+1,50</font>)&", "&LEFT(<font color="Blue">B1,FIND(<font color="Red">" ",B1</font>)-1</font>)</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></table><br />

#### kweaver

##### Well-known Member
If you combine those two formulas in B1, you'd have this mess:

Code:
``=MID(MID(A1,FIND(": ",A1)+2,50),FIND(" ",MID(A1,FIND(": ",A1)+2,50))+1,50)&", "&LEFT(MID(A1,FIND(": ",A1)+2,50),FIND(" ",MID(A1,FIND(": ",A1)+2,50))-1)``

#### jasonb75

##### Well-known Member
Correcting my previous error, slighly shorter than the combined version above, but not by much.

=MID(A1,FIND("|",SUBSTITUTE(A1," ","|",3))+1,LEN(A1))&", "&TRIM(MID(SUBSTITUTE(A1," ",REPT(" ",LEN(A1))),LEN(A1)*2,LEN(A1)))

#### jasonb75

##### Well-known Member
Taking a different approach to the combined formula, this one looks like it works.

=SUBSTITUTE(MID(A1&", "&A1,FIND(" ",A1,14)+1,LEN(A1)+1),"Driver Name: ","")

#### kweaver

##### Well-known Member
That's a good one, Jasonb75 !!

#### Toadstool

##### Active Member
Let me put in my option:

=RIGHT(A1,LEN(A1)-SEARCH(" ",A1,14))&", "&MID(A1,14,SEARCH(" ",A1,14)-14)

So I assume it always starts "Driver Name: " so I know the first name starts at position 14.

The challenge is with people who use a middle name or honorifics.

 A B 1 Driver Name: Donald Williams Jr Williams Jr, Donald 2 Driver Name: Donald Williams Williams, Donald 3 Driver Name: Donny Boy Williams Boy Williams, Donny 4 Driver Name: Mary Lou Williams Lou Williams, Mary 5 Driver Name: Mr Williams Williams, Mr 6 Driver Name: Donald Arthur Williams III Arthur Williams III, Donald 7 Driver Name: Sir Donald Williams, Esq Donald Williams, Esq, Sir

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B1=RIGHT(A1,LEN(A1)-SEARCH(" ",A1,14))&", "&MID(A1,14,SEARCH(" ",A1,14)-14)

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#### jasonb75

##### Well-known Member
The challenge is with people who use a middle name or honorifics.
Such exceptions are going to ruin any practical formula.

#### DanteAmor

##### Well-known Member
Another option

=REPLACE(A1,1,FIND(" ",A1,14),"")&", "&MID(A1,14,FIND(" ",A1,14)-14)

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