Interest Calculation Help

zaska

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Hello,

I have the following depoist

Deposit Date : 19-03-2012
Maturity Date : 19-02-2015
No.of Months : 35

Amount Deposited : 8,02,629
Maturity Amount : 10,63,076

Rate of Intereset : 9.75% Per Annum Compounded Quarterly

1. Could any one tell me how to calculate the Total interest earned which is (Rs.10,63,076 - Rs.8,02,629) using an FV function.

2. How to find out the Interest earned for each Financial Year ( Jan-Dec) for example

For the Period of Deposit ( 19-03-2012 To 19-02-2015 )

Year - 2012 - 9 Months Interest
Year - 2013 - 12 Months Interest
Year - 2014 - 12 Months Interest
Year - 2015 - 2 Months Interest

Thank you,

Regards,
Zaska
 

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y0ou will have to use the FFV for each time or take the total time ( 35 ) and base it off that , but here is what i did


=FV(0.0975,8.75,0,802629)

=FV ( Rate , months divided by quater (or 35/4 ) Maturity rate (0) ammount started with (802629)

return value ( american Dollar ) $1,811,567.31
 
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I have the following depoist
Deposit Date : 19-03-2012
Maturity Date : 19-02-2015
No.of Months : 35
Amount Deposited : 8,02,629
Maturity Amount : 10,63,076
Rate of Intereset : 9.75% Per Annum Compounded Quarterly

1. Could any one tell me how to calculate the Total interest earned which is (Rs.10,63,076 - Rs.8,02,629) using an FV function.

Assuming the amounts are in B1:B6, ostensibly the maturity amount would be computed by:

=ROUND(FV(B6/4,B3/3,0,-B4),0)

Note that the number of quarters (B3/3) has a divisor of 3 because there are 3 months per quarter. In contrast, the quarterly interest rate (B6/4) has a divisor of 4 because there are 4 quarters per year.

However, that results in 1,063,007, not 1,063,076. The small difference (0.0065%) is probably due to arithmetic properties of calculations with fractional exponents.

A more "accurate" computation (i.e. agrees better with the bank's amount) is:

=ROUND(ROUND(FV(A4/4,INT(A3/3),0,-B1),0)*(1+MOD(A3,3)*A4/12),0)

The key points are:

1. The amount of interest accumulated during the first integral number of quarters INT(A3/3) is rounded.

2. That rounded amount is multiplied by the monthly interest rate A4/12 for the remaining months MOD(A3,3), then rounded.

However, we should test this methodology with all of the examples that you provide is your posting in excelforum.com (click here) [1]. TBD.

[1] www.excelforum.com/excel-general/1014074-compounded-interest-quarterly.html

2. How to find out the Interest earned for each Financial Year ( Jan-Dec) for example
For the Period of Deposit ( 19-03-2012 To 19-02-2015 )
Year - 2012 - 9 Months Interest
Year - 2013 - 12 Months Interest
Year - 2014 - 12 Months Interest
Year - 2015 - 2 Months Interest

That is difficult to answer, in general. There are two complications:

1. How does the bank calculate and post interest to the account quarter by quarter?

2. How to handle each year if the first year is not an integral number of quarters, as it is in your example by coincidence? For example, consider the case where deposit is on Apr 19 instead of Mar 19.

I believe Complication #1 is best determined by a quarterly schedule. Nevertheless, the exact methodology might vary from bank to bank, if it is not specified by local or national law.

For example, the following quarterly schedule works for your example (dates and numbers in US format):


E
F
2
3/19/2012
802,629
3
6/19/2012822,193
4
9/19/2012842,234
5
12/19/2012862,763
6
3/19/2013883,793
7
6/19/2013905,336
8
9/19/2013927,404
9
12/19/2013
950,009
10
3/19/2014973,165
11
6/19/2014996,886
12
9/19/20141,021,185
13
12/19/20141,046,077
14
2/19/20151,063,076

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</tbody>

Formulas:
Code:
E2:  =B1
E3:  =EDATE(E2,3)
E14: =B2

F2:  =B4
F3:  =MAX(ROUND(FV($B$6/4,ROWS($E$3:E3),0,-$B$4),0), ROUND(F2*(1+$B$6/4),0))
F14: =MAX(ROUND(FV(B6/4,INT(B3/3),0,-B4)*(1+MOD(B3/3,1)*B6/4),0), ROUND(F13*(1+2*B6/12),0))

E3:F3 is copied down through E13:F13.

Again, this methodology needs to be tested with all of the examples in your posting in excelforum.com.

I offer the formulas not as a solution to work with, but as an example of the complexity.

Complication #2 is an even bigger nut to crack.

I don't have time at the moment to offer a complete solution. But hopefully this will set your expectations.

The important take-away from all this is: Excel financial functions like FV are useful for providing estimations, but nothing can account for the varied policies that banks employ to handle fractional interest amounts. So it is difficult for us to duplicate bank calculations exactly.
 
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Errata, too late to edit....
Assuming the amounts are in B1:B6, ostensibly the maturity amount would be computed by:
[....]
A more "accurate" computation (i.e. agrees better with the bank's amount) is:

=ROUND(ROUND(FV(A4/4,INT(A3/3),0,-B1),0)*(1+MOD(A3,3)*A4/12),0)

That should be:

=ROUND(ROUND(FV(B6/4,INT(B3/3),0,-B4),0)*(1+MOD(B3,3)*B6/12),0)
 
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Clarification, too late to edit....
For example, the following quarterly schedule works for your example (dates and numbers in US format):
[....]
Formulas:
Code:
E2:  =B1
E3:  =EDATE(E2,3)
E14: =B2

F2:  =B4
F3:  =MAX(ROUND(FV($B$6/4,ROWS($E$3:E3),0,-$B$4),0), ROUND(F2*(1+$B$6/4),0))
F14: =MAX(ROUND(FV(B6/4,INT(B3/3),0,-B4)*(1+MOD(B3/3,1)*B6/4),0), ROUND(F13*(1+2*B6/12),0))

E3:F3 is copied down through E13:F13.

Sorry for the incessant postings, but I feel the following clarification might be helpful.

The formulas in column F can be simplified if we make some assumptions. This is illustrated in the following table.


E
F
G
H

1

Rounded
Cumulative

Exact
Rounded
Posted
2
3/19/2012802,629802,629.00802,629
3
6/19/2012822,193822,193.08822,193
4
9/19/2012842,234842,234.04842,234
5
12/19/2012862,763862,763.49862,763
6
3/19/2013883,793883,793.35883,793
7
6/19/2013905,336905,335.82905,335
8
9/19/2013927,403927,403.38927,403
9
12/19/2013950,009950,008.83950,008
10
3/19/2014973,165973,165.30973,164
11
6/19/2014996,886
996,886.20996,885
12
9/19/20141,021,1851,021,185.301,021,184
13
12/19/20141,046,0771,046,076.701,046,075
14
2/19/20151,063,0761,063,075.441,063,074

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The formulas in F3:F13 (F3 by example) and F14 are:

F3: =ROUND(FV($B$6/4,ROWS($E$3:E3),0,-$B$4),0)
F14: =ROUND(ROUND(FV(B6/4,INT(B3/3),0,-B4),0)*(1+MOD(B3,3)*B6/12),0)

In actual practice, periodic interest should be the previous balance times the periodic rate.

The bank is free to handle fractional interest amounts in any reasonable manner, subject to local or national law.

(I don't know why zaska assumes amounts are rounded to rupees, since the rupee has been decimalized since 1957 to 1969, depending on location. So I take that for granted.)

One method is illustrated in column H: periodic interest is based on the rounded periodic balance. The formulas are:

H3: =ROUND(H2*(1+$B$6/4),0)
H14: =ROUND(H13*(1+MOD(B3,3)*B6/12),0)

But that would result in a final balance of 1,063,074 instead of 1,063,076.

Another method is illustrated in column G: periodic interest is based on the exact balance. (Amounts are displayed rounded to 2 decimal places, but the actual amounts are more precise.) The formulas are:

G3: =G2*(1+$B$6/4)
G14: =G13*(1+MOD(B3,3)*B6/12)

However, that would result in a final balance of 1,063,075 or 1,063,075.44 when rounded to the amount actually paid; again, not 1,063,076.

A third method is illustrated in column F: periodic interest is based on the exact balance, but the reported balance is rounded.

In that case, I believe the formula in F14 should be:

=ROUND(FV(B6/4,INT(B3/3),0,-B4)*(1+MOD(B3,3)*B6/12),0)

But again, that would result in 1,063,075 instead of 1,063,076. In fact, it causes an off-by-one error in several of the additional examples included in zaska's posting at excelforum.com.

In contrast, the formula

=ROUND(ROUND(FV(B6/4,INT(B3/3),0,-B4),0)*(1+MOD(B3,3)*B6/12),0)

works for all of those examples.

I find that surprising. It begs the question: how would the bank report year-end interest in each year that ends in an odd quarter (1- or 2-month period) because the deposit does not start at the beginning of a quarter?

In any case, it appears the bank uses the last formula to determine the final balance paid at maturity.
 
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Thank you very much for your valuable time explaining me each and every aspect in detail.

Regards,

Zaska
 
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