Convert# of seconds since a date that is before 1990?

im2bz2p345

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Hi,

Is there a way to convert a text field that is formatted in seconds from the date of 1/1/1841 to mm-dd-yyyy h:mm:ss AM/PM?

For example, in cell F6, I have the text string 5476694198, which after conversion should output to Jul 19, 2014 3:56 PM

I found this article which discussing working with dates before 1/1/1990 in Excel: Pre-1900 Dates in Excel

Since the XDATE add-in created by John Walkenbach seems to be inaccessible now, I looked at the macro referenced (How to calculate ages before 1/1/1900 in Excel - Office), but is there a way to hardcode the end date and uses a formula that only references?

I'm using the latest Excel 365, 32-bit version if that makes a difference.

Regards,

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CORRECTION on first sentence: Is there a way to convert a text field string that displays the number of seconds from the date 1/1/1841 to a format such as mm-dd-yyyy h:mm:ss AM/PM?

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Here's a UDF that ignores leap seconds (which were introduced in 1972). So for seconds elapsed that will end up later than 1972 this will overstate the time by a few seconds (less than 30). It uses a less than efficient algorithm that runs through each day updating the month, day, and year as it goes. For a one-time calculation it is almost immediate (.01 seconds or so) but if you are running many of these calculations at the same time, I wouldn't recommend using this.

VBA Code:
Function DateSeconds(FromYear As Integer, FromMonth As Integer, FromDay As Integer, seconds As Double) As String
    Dim Days As Double, i As Long, monthdays, months, dt As String, tm As String, t As Double
    t = Timer
    monthdays = Array(0, 31, 28, 31, 30, 31, 30, 31, 31, 30, 31, 30, 31, 30, 31)
    months = Array("", "Jan", "Feb", "Mar", "Apr", "May", "Jun", "Jul", "Aug", "Sep", "Oct", "Nov", "Dec")
    Days = seconds / 24 / 3600
    For i = 1 To Int(Days)
        FromDay = FromDay + 1
        If FromDay > monthdays(FromMonth) Then
            If FromMonth <> 2 Or FromYear Mod 4 <> 0 Then
                FromDay = 1
                FromMonth = FromMonth + 1
                If FromMonth = 13 Then
                    FromMonth = 1
                    FromYear = FromYear + 1
                End If
            Else
                If FromDay = 30 Then
                    FromDay = 1
                    FromMonth = 3
                End If
            End If
        End If

    Next
    dt = months(FromMonth) & " " & FromDay & ", " & FromYear
    tm = Format(Days - Int(Days), "Long Time")
    DateSeconds = dt & " " & tm
    Debug.Print Timer - t
End Function

=DateSeconds(1841,1,1,5476694198) => Jul 19, 2014 3:56:38 PM
 
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Thank you BOTH for the replies.

Small correction. The start date is actually 12/31/1840 at midnight. See below for a detailed breakdown.

How did you calculate Jul 19 2014 ?
Consider the following...

Hi @Dave Patton - thanks for the reply, but unfortunately that won't work unless all it can be combined into one massive formula without using extra cells. I have a small sample export of data out of a system that using.

Here is how it is calculated manually:

RMR Transition Utility Export POC 1-4-2022.xlsx
FGH
65476694198# days = Total Seconds since 12/31/1840 (F6)/# of seconds in a day (86,400)63387.66433
7# of hours = 24 hours in a day X days in the remainder (.66433)15.94392
8# of minutes = 60 minutes in a hour X hours in the remainder (0.94392)56.6352
9# of seconds = 60 seconds in a minutes X minutes in the remainder (0.6352)38.112
HRX export
Cell Formulas
RangeFormula
H6H6=F6/86400
H7H7=24*0.66433
H8H8=60*0.94392
H9H9=60*0.6352


Values in H6, H7, H8, and H9 were plugged into this website: Date Calculator: Add to or Subtract From a Date – Results

Screenshot:

TimeDateCalculation.png


Thanks,

~ im2bz2p345 :)
 
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Here's a UDF that ignores leap seconds (which were introduced in 1972). So for seconds elapsed that will end up later than 1972 this will overstate the time by a few seconds (less than 30). It uses a less than efficient algorithm that runs through each day updating the month, day, and year as it goes. For a one-time calculation it is almost immediate (.01 seconds or so) but if you are running many of these calculations at the same time, I wouldn't recommend using this.

Hi @JGordon11. This is incredible and exactly what I was after. Thank you for putting it together.

I spot checked using your UDF with many other values and it outputted the correct value each time. I also copy-pasted it to several lines (35) and it almost instantly calculated, so it's definitely operating fairly efficiently.

I wanted to thank you for your efforts. I will wait a day for any other feedback, but will likely mark your response as the solution soon.

~ im2bz2p345 :)
 
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Thought about this and found the VBA Dateserial function can handle this. Interestingly it returned an answer one day later than the function I provided earlier. It is right and my previous function is off by a day. Reason is that years that are divisible by 100 but not by 400 have no leap day. So, for example, 1800 & 1900 had no leap day but 2000 did. So here is a UDF that is much shorter, faster and best of all it is correct for the century years leap day complication. It presumably works for years 100 to 9999.

VBA Code:
Function DateSeconds(FromYear As Integer, FromMonth As Integer, FromDay As Integer, seconds As Double) As String
    Dim dt As Double
    dt = DateSerial(FromYear, FromMonth, FromDay) + seconds / 24 / 3600
    DateSeconds = Format(dt, "mmm d, yyyy") & " " & Format(dt, "Long Time")
End Function
 
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Thought about this and found the VBA Dateserial function can handle this. Interestingly it returned an answer one day later than the function I provided earlier. It is right and my previous function is off by a day. Reason is that years that are divisible by 100 but not by 400 have no leap day. So, for example, 1800 & 1900 had no leap day but 2000 did. So here is a UDF that is much shorter, faster and best of all it is correct for the century years leap day complication. It presumably works for years 100 to 9999.

VBA Code:
Function DateSeconds(FromYear As Integer, FromMonth As Integer, FromDay As Integer, seconds As Double) As String
    Dim dt As Double
    dt = DateSerial(FromYear, FromMonth, FromDay) + seconds / 24 / 3600
    DateSeconds = Format(dt, "mmm d, yyyy") & " " & Format(dt, "Long Time")
End Function

Thank for the follow-up, research you did, and the improvements you made @JGordon11!

It works perfectly if I use the start date of midnight on 12/31/1840 as mentioned at the top of post #5, which is the correct starting date timestamp - unfortunately I could not update my original post, so apologies if any confusion was caused.

Another example that I tested out using the string 5460625709. =DateSeconds(1840,12,31,5460625709) => Jan 14, 2014 4:28:29 PM, which is correct.

The updated UDF does seem to operate/compute much more efficiently, as you mentioned.

I hope to use this UDF code with the function =DateSeconds(1840,12,31,<insert cell reference to # of seconds string>) going forward in all of spreadsheets. Once again, I really appreciate your efforts.

~ im2bz2p345 :)
 
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