Can you recreate this formula using RAND instead of RANDBETWEEN?

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I have this array formula (thanks to the wonderful mr. excel user Yahya-- thanks!)) and I am sure it is exactly what I want. But the problem is that it uses RANDBETWEEN and because I amusing excel2002 I only have RAND and not RANDBETWEEN.

Is there a way to modify this Array Formula so it uses RAND, and not RANDBETWEEN so I can use it with the excel that I have?

#VALUE!
Entered with Ctrl+Shift+Enter. If entered correctly, Excel will surround with curly braces {}. Note: Do not try and enter these manually yourself

(...and here is the orginal thread that describes what I am trying to acomplish: http://www.mrexcel.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2818694#post2818694 )
 

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I have this array formula (thanks to the wonderful mr. excel user Yahya-- thanks!)) and I am sure it is exactly what I want. But the problem is that it uses RANDBETWEEN and because I amusing excel2002 I only have RAND and not RANDBETWEEN.

Is there a way to modify this Array Formula so it uses RAND, and not RANDBETWEEN so I can use it with the excel that I have?

#VALUE!
Entered with Ctrl+Shift+Enter. If entered correctly, Excel will surround with curly braces {}. Note: Do not try and enter these manually yourself

(...and here is the orginal thread that describes what I am trying to acomplish: http://www.mrexcel.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2818694#post2818694 )
This will generate a random number from 1 to 9:

=INT(1+9*RAND())
 
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That does indeed generate a random # between 1 and 9, but it doesn't really seem to help! My situation is that I want to pick a random item from a list in column b, but only if the same row has a code word in column a.

In other words, if I have a list of names in column a, I want to pick a random item from column b out of all the possible items tat match up to the name "Fred" from column A.

Using your INT and getting a random number from 1 to 9 doesn't help me with the central crux of this problem that is making me tear my hair out(!!!!) How do I pick a random item from a list that is filtered according to another column????? The answer is that array formula, but I don't have RANDBETWEEN and so I cannot use that array formula. Is there a way to do it without RANDBETWEEN???

Thanks, and I am desperate for help!!!
 
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Maybe this:

<b>Excel 2007</b><table cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" style=";background-color: #FFFFFF;border: 1px solid;border-collapse: collapse; border-color: #A6AAB6"><colgroup><col width="25px" style="background-color: #E0E0F0" /><col /><col /><col /><col /><col /><col /></colgroup><thead><tr style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;text-align: center;color: #161120"><th></th><th>A</th><th>B</th><th>C</th><th>D</th><th>E</th><th>F</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">1</td><td style="text-align: center;;">1</td><td style="text-align: center;;">17</td><td style="text-align: center;;">1</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">17</td><td style="text-align: center;;">17</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">2</td><td style="text-align: center;;">2</td><td style="text-align: center;;">68</td><td style="text-align: center;;">2</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">68</td><td style="text-align: center;;">68</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">3</td><td style="text-align: center;;">3</td><td style="text-align: center;;">79</td><td style="text-align: center;;">3</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">79</td><td style="text-align: center;;">79</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">4</td><td style="text-align: center;;">4</td><td style="text-align: center;;">82</td><td style="text-align: center;;">4</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">82</td><td style="text-align: center;;">82</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">5</td><td style="text-align: center;;">5</td><td style="text-align: center;;">45</td><td style="text-align: center;;">5</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">45</td><td style="text-align: center;;">45</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">6</td><td style="text-align: center;;">6</td><td style="text-align: center;;">47</td><td style="text-align: center;;">6</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">47</td><td style="text-align: center;;">47</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">7</td><td style="text-align: center;;">7</td><td style="text-align: center;;">12</td><td style="text-align: center;;">7</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">12</td><td style="text-align: center;;">12</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">8</td><td style="text-align: center;;">8</td><td style="text-align: center;;">44</td><td style="text-align: center;;">8</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">44</td><td style="text-align: center;;">44</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">9</td><td style="text-align: center;;">9</td><td style="text-align: center;;">75</td><td style="text-align: center;;">9</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">75</td><td style="text-align: center;;">75</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">10</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">Randbetween</td><td style="text-align: center;;">Rand</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">11</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">12</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td></tr></tbody></table><p style="width:3.6em;font-weight:bold;margin:0;padding:0.2em 0.6em 0.2em 0.5em;border: 1px solid #A6AAB6;border-top:none;text-align: center;background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120">Sheet7</p><br /><br /><table width="85%" cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" style=";border: 2px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;padding: 0.4em;background-color: #FFFFFF" ><tr><td style="padding:6px" ><b>Array Formulas</b><table cellpadding="2.5px" width="100%" rules="all" style="border: 1px solid;text-align:center;background-color: #FFFFFF;border-collapse: collapse; border-color: #A6AAB6"><thead><tr style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120"><th width="10px">Cell</th><th style="text-align:left;padding-left:5px;">Formula</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr><th width="10px" style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120">E1</th><td style="text-align:left">{=INDEX(<font color="Blue">$B$1:$B$9,RANDBETWEEN(<font color="Red">MATCH(<font color="Green">C1,$A$1:$A$9,0</font>),MATCH(<font color="Green">1,IF(<font color="Purple">$A$1:$A$9=C1,1</font>)</font>)</font>)</font>)}</td></tr><tr><th width="10px" style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120">F1</th><td style="text-align:left">{=INDEX(<font color="Blue">$B$1:$B$9,ROUND(<font color="Red">RAND(<font color="Green"></font>)*(<font color="Green">MATCH(<font color="Purple">1,IF(<font color="Teal">$A$1:$A$9=C1,1</font>)</font>)-MATCH(<font color="Purple">C1,$A$1:$A$9,0</font>)</font>)+MATCH(<font color="Green">C1,$A$1:$A$9,0</font>),0</font>)</font>)}</td></tr></tbody></table><b>Entered with Ctrl+Shift+Enter.</b> If entered correctly, Excel will surround with curly braces {}.
<b>Note: Do not try and enter the {} manually yourself</b></td></tr></table><br />
Markmzz
 
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WOWOWOWOWOW

Thank you so much! That really works... you have no idea how much this helps me. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!!
 
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That does indeed generate a random # between 1 and 9, but it doesn't really seem to help! My situation is that I want to pick a random item from a list in column b, but only if the same row has a code word in column a.

In other words, if I have a list of names in column a, I want to pick a random item from column b out of all the possible items tat match up to the name "Fred" from column A.

Using your INT and getting a random number from 1 to 9 doesn't help me with the central crux of this problem that is making me tear my hair out(!!!!) How do I pick a random item from a list that is filtered according to another column????? The answer is that array formula, but I don't have RANDBETWEEN and so I cannot use that array formula. Is there a way to do it without RANDBETWEEN???

Thanks, and I am desperate for help!!!
Try this...

Book1
ABCD
1FredI like ice creamJoeWhat's Up
2FredI like baseball__
3FredI like the color red__
4SallyI go hiking on Monday__
5SallyI go running on Tuesday__
6JoeHello__
7JoeGreetings__
8JoeHowdy__
9JoeWhat's Up__
Sheet1

This formula entered in D1:

=INDEX(B$1:B$9,INT(MATCH(C1,A$1:A$9,0)+COUNTIF(A$1:A$9,C1)*RAND()))
 
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I have this array formula (thanks to the wonderful mr. excel user Yahya-- thanks!)) and I am sure it is exactly what I want. But the problem is that it uses RANDBETWEEN and because I amusing excel2002 I only have RAND and not RANDBETWEEN.

Is there a way to modify this Array Formula so it uses RAND, and not RANDBETWEEN so I can use it with the excel that I have?

#VALUE!
Entered with Ctrl+Shift+Enter. If entered correctly, Excel will surround with curly braces {}. Note: Do not try and enter these manually yourself

(...and here is the orginal thread that describes what I am trying to acomplish: http://www.mrexcel.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2818694#post2818694 )
If you use RAND() or RANDBETWEEN(), the retrieval result will change. Is that what you want?
 
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But the problem is that it uses RANDBETWEEN and because I amusing excel2002 I only have RAND and not RANDBETWEEN.

I'm using Excel 2002 and I have RANDBETWEEN. I believe you just need to activate the Analysis TookPak. (Tools Menu - Add Ins - Check Analysis TookPak.)
 
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A quick follow up question to this. If I am usig markmzz's solution (thank you so much markmzz!) and I want to ignore all 0 values in B, how would I modify the array formula? So from below...

I want to modify this array formula:
<table style="border: 1px solid rgb(166, 170, 182); text-align: center; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-collapse: collapse;" cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" width="100%"><tbody><tr><tr><td style="text-align: left;">{=INDEX($B$1:$B$9,ROUND(RAND()*(MATCH(1,IF($A$1:$A$9=C1,1))-MATCH(C1,$A$1:$A$9,0))+MATCH(C1,$A$1:$A$9,0),0))}</td></tr></tr></tbody></table>such that it won't ever return a "0" In other words, since C2 is a "2" I want a random selection from the B column from all the rows that have a "2" in column A (ie, a random pick from A4,A5,A6, A7, A8, A9) but ignoring all 0 value possibilities in column B-- ie, a random pick from only B4, B7, B8, B9.

More simply, this array formula filters the output by column A. I need to add something to it to also filter out 0's from column B.


Maybe this:

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Sheet7


<table style="border: 2px solid black; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0.4em; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" width="85%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 6px;">Array Formulas<table style="border: 1px solid rgb(166, 170, 182); text-align: center; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); border-collapse: collapse;" cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" width="100%"><thead><tr style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); color: rgb(22, 17, 32);"><th width="10px">Cell</th><th style="text-align: left; padding-left: 5px;">Formula</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr><th style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); color: rgb(22, 17, 32);" width="10px">E1</th><td style="text-align: left;">{=INDEX($B$1:$B$9,RANDBETWEEN(MATCH(C1,$A$1:$A$9,0),MATCH(1,IF($A$1:$A$9=C1,1))))}</td></tr><tr><th style="background-color: rgb(224, 224, 240); color: rgb(22, 17, 32);" width="10px">F1</th><td style="text-align: left;">{=INDEX($B$1:$B$9,ROUND(RAND()*(MATCH(1,IF($A$1:$A$9=C1,1))-MATCH(C1,$A$1:$A$9,0))+MATCH(C1,$A$1:$A$9,0),0))}</td></tr></tbody></table>Entered with Ctrl+Shift+Enter. If entered correctly, Excel will surround with curly braces {}.
Note: Do not try and enter the {} manually yourself</td></tr></tbody></table>

Markmzz
 
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Try this:

<b>Excel 2007</b><table cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" style=";background-color: #FFFFFF;border: 1px solid;border-collapse: collapse; border-color: #A6AAB6"><colgroup><col width="25px" style="background-color: #E0E0F0" /><col /><col /><col /><col /><col /><col /></colgroup><thead><tr style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;text-align: center;color: #161120"><th></th><th>A</th><th>B</th><th>C</th><th>D</th><th>E</th><th>F</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">1</td><td style="text-align: right;;">1</td><td style="text-align: right;;">17</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: right;;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">75</td><td style="text-align: right;;">75</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">1</td><td style="text-align: right;;">0</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">3</td><td style="text-align: right;;">1</td><td style="text-align: right;;">79</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">4</td><td style="text-align: right;;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">82</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">5</td><td style="text-align: right;;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">0</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">6</td><td style="text-align: right;;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">0</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">7</td><td style="text-align: right;;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">12</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">8</td><td style="text-align: right;;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">44</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">9</td><td style="text-align: right;;">2</td><td style="text-align: right;;">75</td><td style="text-align: right;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">10</td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;"></td><td style="text-align: center;;">Randbetween</td><td style="text-align: center;;">Rand</td></tr><tr ><td style="color: #161120;text-align: center;">11</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td><td style="text-align: center;;">*****</td></tr></tbody></table><p style="width:4.2em;font-weight:bold;margin:0;padding:0.2em 0.6em 0.2em 0.5em;border: 1px solid #A6AAB6;border-top:none;text-align: center;background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120">Sheet71</p><br /><br /><table width="85%" cellpadding="2.5px" rules="all" style=";border: 2px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;padding: 0.4em;background-color: #FFFFFF" ><tr><td style="padding:6px" ><b>Array Formulas</b><table cellpadding="2.5px" width="100%" rules="all" style="border: 1px solid;text-align:center;background-color: #FFFFFF;border-collapse: collapse; border-color: #A6AAB6"><thead><tr style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120"><th width="10px">Cell</th><th style="text-align:left;padding-left:5px;">Formula</th></tr></thead><tbody><tr><th width="10px" style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120">E1</th><td style="text-align:left">{=INDEX(<font color="Blue">B$1:B$9,LARGE(<font color="Red">IF(<font color="Green">(<font color="Purple">A$1:A$9=D$1</font>)*(<font color="Purple">B1:B9<>0</font>),ROW(<font color="Purple">A$1:A$9</font>)-ROW(<font color="Purple">A$1</font>)+1,0</font>),RANDBETWEEN(<font color="Green">1,COUNTIF(<font color="Purple">A1:A9,D1</font>)-COUNTIF(<font color="Purple">B1:B9,0</font>)+1</font>)</font>)</font>)}</td></tr><tr><th width="10px" style=" background-color: #E0E0F0;color: #161120">F1</th><td style="text-align:left">{=INDEX(<font color="Blue">B$1:B$9,LARGE(<font color="Red">IF(<font color="Green">(<font color="Purple">A$1:A$9=D$1</font>)*(<font color="Purple">B1:B9<>0</font>),ROW(<font color="Purple">A$1:A$9</font>)-ROW(<font color="Purple">A$1</font>)+1,0</font>),ROUND(<font color="Green">RAND(<font color="Purple"></font>)*(<font color="Purple">COUNTIF(<font color="Teal">A1:A9,D1</font>)-COUNTIF(<font color="Teal">B1:B9,0</font>)</font>)+1,0</font>)</font>)</font>)}</td></tr></tbody></table><b>Entered with Ctrl+Shift+Enter.</b> If entered correctly, Excel will surround with curly braces {}.
<b>Note: Do not try and enter the {} manually yourself</b></td></tr></table><br />
Note: I don't know how to do that with the formula below.

{=INDEX($B$1:$B$9,ROUND(RAND()*(MATCH(1,IF($A$1:$A$9=C1,1))-MATCH(C1,$A$1:$A$9,0))+MATCH(C1,$A$1:$A$9,0),0))}

Markmzz
 
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