guess I could make my own command buttons with arrows but if Microsoft give you a control that does the job you think they'd have finished it off properly.... hmmm, no, maybe not!!!
Anyway, have a nasty solution in that I've stuck blank, borderless images in front of each side of the spinbutton and made them visible or not based on spinbutton min and max. V. nasty, I know!
Thanks for looking into it Jim/Dmc, appreciated.
Cameron.