Selecting next "empty" cell down from the current cell (summing at the top of a range)

[Brian.Crawford]

I am wanting to sum a column at the top of a group of rows (groups are separated from each other by a blank row and also [currently] have a unique identifier [column] per group).
I can do this with a VBA function, or in Excel directly using a helper column (counting the unique IDs) but have been unable to accomplish it directly on the WS without the helper column. I have been trying using
=SUM(OFFSET(CelltoSumInto,1,0,????????,1))
but have not figured out how to count the cells down from the cell to be summed into, to the next blank row (without the helper column).
ie
Total 50
item1 25
item2 25
(blank row)
Total 10
item3 5
item4 5

Any suggestions
Thanks Brian

 

[Robert Mika]

I am wanting to sum a column at the top of a group of rows (groups are separated from each other by a blank row and also [currently] have a unique identifier [column] per group).
I can do this with a VBA function, or in Excel directly using a helper column (counting the unique IDs) but have been unable to accomplish it directly on the WS without the helper column. I have been trying using
=SUM(OFFSET(CelltoSumInto,1,0,????????,1))
but have not figured out how to count the cells down from the cell to be summed into, to the next blank row (without the helper column).
ie
Total 50
item1 25
item2 25
(blank row)
Total 10
item3 5
item4 5

Any suggestions
Thanks Brian

Excel Workbook
	A	B	C
1	Total	50	50
2	item1	25
3	item2	25
4
5	Total	10	33
6	item3	5
7	item4	5
8	item	23
9
10	Total		111
11	iemt	56
12	item7	55
Sheet1

 

[Brian.Crawford]

Thanks,
This looks to require a 3rd column which doesn't really work for my situation. Can I simply put the formula (as non-array) at the top of every group.
I know in advance how many groups there will be (they will pre-setup) but not how many items under each one (but at least the top total row plus one item row). it is intended that adding new "items" to a group will be done by a user instigated macro that inserts a new row and copies all required formula to that row. Probably should have described this previously
thanks

 

[Robert Mika]

Thanks,
This looks to require a 3rd column which doesn't really work for my situation. Can I simply put the formula (as non-array) at the top of every group.
I know in advance how many groups there will be (they will pre-setup) but not how many items under each one (but at least the top total row plus one item row). it is intended that adding new "items" to a group will be done by a user instigated macro that inserts a new row and copies all required formula to that row. Probably should have described this previously
thanks

If you need formula to be eneter beetween values you need VBA anyway.